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Wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten bak

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Wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten bak

Berichtdoor vincentdh » vr 07 sep 2012, 20:15

beste forumleden,

wie kan mij adviseren, tips geven of zelfs persoonlijk helpen met een ruit te plaatsen in een houten aquarium/bak?? ik heb het 1 en ander opgezocht op internet, maar het is toch wat fijner om iemand te spreken die zelf een ruit geplaatst heeft of weet hoe het moet.

glas is zo te krijgen in de juiste maat en dikte.

puntjes zoals welke kit hoe zit het met de druk enz.

ik hoop iemand te treffen die mij kan helpen.

groetjes vincent
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Re: wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten ba

Berichtdoor Renzenator » vr 07 sep 2012, 20:45

kijk eens bij de bouw van patricks bak. daar staan ook duidelijke foto's dacht ik. sjoeerd is nu ook bezig en zijn glas zal ook eerdaags eens de bak in gaan vermoed ik....
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Re: Wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten ba

Berichtdoor Lode » zo 09 sep 2012, 07:29

Heb je misschien een foto van bak, dan krijgen we een beter beeld.
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Re: Wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten ba

Berichtdoor vincentdh » zo 09 sep 2012, 08:58

hier 2 foto's van de bak. het zal rond de 4400 liter zijn.
de bak is was in eerste instantie gebruikt voor koi's.
er word ook vijverfolie gebruikt. maargoed in de voorzijde
wilde ik dus een ruit plaatsen.

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Re: Wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten ba

Berichtdoor Rivfader » zo 09 sep 2012, 14:09

aahhh als het een folie bak word dan is de techniek om een ruit te plaatsen heel anders... waarom ga je niet voor epoxy?
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Re: Wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten ba

Berichtdoor vincentdh » zo 09 sep 2012, 16:44

ik heb er natuurlijk nog geen verstand van, maar is het niet ruit tegen hout plakken en dan de folie weer op de ruit plakken? of denk ik nu te simpel :S

epoxy, een kleine uitleg?

dat schilder je er op toch? hoe zit dat met de hoekjes en gaatjes?
en er zit al vast een bodemdraim in gelijmd met folie.
veel vragen, haha
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Re: Wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten ba

Berichtdoor Rivfader » zo 09 sep 2012, 17:00

hmmm persoonlijk zou ik de bodemdrain vervangen voor een die je er later opschroeft... je dnekt namelijk iets te makkelijk nu haha... epoxy is inderdaad een twee componentenhars die je op het hout schildert. je neemt een hars en een harder in de juiste hoeveelheid en vervolgens meng je deze. wanneer deze gemengd worden ontstaat een reactie waardoor de hars uithard.

epoxy word vooral veel in de jachtbouw gebruikt om boten waterdicht te maken en is dus uitermate geschikt voor dit werk. grote hoeken/kieren/gaten kan je opvullen met een fileer, dit zijn bijvoorbeeld katoenvezels die je mengt met de epoxy tot je een dikke pasta hebt.

eerst behandel je de bak helemaal met de epoxy een laag of 3/4 (dit kan nat op nat of met opschuren tussendoor) wanneer je tussendoor opschuurt krijg je het gladste resultaat, dit duurt alleen wel langer.

wanneer de hele bak zijn behandeling heeft gehad is hij eigenlijk waterdicht op de gaten voor doorvoeren en de ruit na. de ruit zet je dan gewoon met een goede aquarium kit tegen de omlijsting aan vanaf de binnenkant.

de doorvoeren kan je met een stel goede rubbers vastklemmen/lijmen/schroeven (afhankelijk van het type doorvoer)

vor een uitleg over epoxy kan je ook terecht bij mrboat.nl
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Re: Wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten ba

Berichtdoor vincentdh » zo 09 sep 2012, 21:09

kijk dit is super, dus je raad de epoxy aan boven de folie.
het oogt natuurlijk mooier, geen vouwen enz.

is de epoxy ook te verven, zwart bv? en wat voor verf is daarvoor nodig?

ik bent in iedergeval al super geholpen :duim :duim :duim
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Re: Wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten ba

Berichtdoor Rivfader » zo 09 sep 2012, 21:41

jah dat kan ik herb zelf een 1 componenten lak gebruikt voor onder water (ook uit de boten wereld) en deze over de epoxy heen gedaan... nu weet ik niet meer precies welke dat was epifane was het merk volgens mij in ieder geval :)

je kan natuurlijk ook het hout eerst verven en dan de epoxy eroverheen... als je 100% safe wil spelen doe je eerst een grondverf in het wit of grijs dan een andere kleur kleurstof in je epoxy en daaroverheen een lak in het zwart zodat je iedere keer kan zien of je lagen wel voldoende gedekt hebben :)
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Re: Wie kan mij helpen een ruit te plaatsen in een houten ba

Berichtdoor Patrick » ma 10 sep 2012, 15:40

Epoxy kan heel goed, daar mee maak je de bak waterdicht, de hoeken moet je dan nog wel wat verstevigen door een een filler in te zetten.
Een filler is eigenlijk niets meer dan een dikke epoxy. Het is dan een soort past wat je in de hoeken smeert om de hoekverbinding extra stevig te maken.

De epoxy kan je heel erg goed lakken met epifanes-mono-urethane! http://www.epifanes.nl/nl/products/afla ... -jachtlak/

Als je een ruit in deze bak wil zetten moet je er zeker van zijn dat de bak sterk genoeg is. Hoe groot wil je de ruit maken en wat is de houtdikte die je gebruikt hebt voor deze bak?
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