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Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

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Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

Berichtdoor Jef1986 » za 19 feb 2011, 17:29

Hallo,

Ik zit me af te vragen tot hoever ik kan gaan qua aquarium grote.
Ik kan nergens op internet vinden wat een betonnenvloer kan dragen per m2.

In me taxatie raport kan ik alleen vinden dat het appartement teaditionele bouw, stapelbouw is met betonnen vloeren.
Het gebouw komt uit 1961

Ik zit een beetje te kijken of een aquarium van 250x100x60 mogelijk is met een bio van 200x60x40 eronder.
Aan de linker kant van het aquarium is de buitenmuur (ik woon op de hoek van de flat op 3 hoog) en dan aan de achterkant van het aquarium een muur (geen draagmuur) en aan de rechterkant ooj een muurtje (geen draag muur) het is een soort nis waar die tussen zou komen dan.

De bak zou van hout gemaakt worden met alleen voor glas.
Kan iemand mij helpen waar ik kan vinden wat de draagkracht is?

Alvast bedankt.
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Re: Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

Berichtdoor Erik » za 19 feb 2011, 17:36

Draagkracht week ik niet.

Kan je wel met bijna zekerheid zeggen dat het kan. Denk dat 250x100x100cm nog zou kunnen met een bio eronder...
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Re: Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

Berichtdoor Renzenator » za 19 feb 2011, 17:39

het preciese getal weet ik ook niet. ik weet wel dat het best wel veel is wat het hebben kan. maar als je niet over de 2000KG per vierkante meter zit je altijd goed.
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Re: Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

Berichtdoor Jef1986 » za 19 feb 2011, 17:45

ok dus volgens jullie zou het gewoon moeten kunnen.
het heeft geen haast om erachter te komen, want verlopig komt die bak er nog niet.
heb net een nieuwe :P lol
maar om alles lekker op tijd van te voren te weten en te plannen is wel zo handig om een prachtige bak te kunnen maken.

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Re: Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

Berichtdoor Erik » za 19 feb 2011, 20:13

Ik heb ervaring met een 250x100x75cm bak met een 150x50x50cm bioloog met gehele ombouw op een HOUTEN vloer....

Deze heb ik wel verstevigd maar heeft succesvol twee jaar in een woonkamer gestaan van een huis uit 1920.
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Re: Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

Berichtdoor Jef1986 » za 19 feb 2011, 20:16

dus het moet gewoon makkelijk gaan haha. het gewicht van de bak met bio erbij zal zo`n 2,5/3 ton zijn verdeeld over 2,5m2


bij zo`n grote bak, hoe grote overloop word dan aangeraden en hoeveel? 1 of 2?.
ik zat eraan te denken er gewoon 1 rechts achterin te doen en dan in water inloop weer aan de andere kant van de bak om zoo voor constante stroming te kunnen zorgen.
ik zie ook wellis dat onder in de overloop ook nog een gat word gemaakt?
waarom is dat?
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Re: Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

Berichtdoor Mark » zo 20 feb 2011, 15:19

het is eigenlijk wat je zelf wil.
als je met 1 overloop gaat werken zorg dan wel dat je de afvoeren groot genoeg maakt.
een gat onder in de overloop word wel eens gebruikt voor bodemafzuiging.
hoeveel liter per uur wil je gaan pompen?
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Re: Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

Berichtdoor Sjoeerd » zo 20 feb 2011, 17:37

Interessant toppic. Heb ik me zelf ook altijd afgevraagd. Voordeel van een houten vloer is dat deze zal gaan doorbuigen en dit te meten valt. Een betonnenvloer zal niet veel meegeven en zal scheuren. Kijk naar patrick zijn bak. Die is op een houten vloer gebouwd met een metalen versteviging. Ik weet niet of ik zijn bak zou aandurven op een betonnen vloer.

In jouw geval zou ik de bak zo veel mogelijk naar links plaatsen tegen de buitenmuur. Rond deze muur steekt de buitenmuur namelijk iets uit onder je vloer. Hierdoor zal je hier veel meer draagkracht kunnen verdragen.

Ikzelf heb ook een betonnenvloer. Mijn 'hobby' kamer is op de derde verdieping en is eigenlijk het dak van het huis. Hier staat mijn aquarium van 2.00 x 1.00 x 0.60 in en er staat een bioloog onder van 1.30 x 0.40 x 0.30. Ook staat er nog andere bak van 180 liter in deze kamer. Het grote aquarium staat niet tegen een draagmuur aan maar eigenlijk (achteraf heeeel dom), precies in het midden van de bovenverdieping.

Als jij je aqua dus tegen een draagmuur aan zet zou ik het ook makkelijk aandurven.

Ik ben heel benieuwd als je iets meer kan vertellen over de draagkracht. Ik heb nog contact gehad met de bouwer/aannemer van het huis, maar die kon er zelf ook niets over vertellen.
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Re: Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

Berichtdoor Jef1986 » zo 20 feb 2011, 19:15

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Re: Draagkracht betonnen vloer per m2

Berichtdoor Erik » zo 20 feb 2011, 19:58

Ik zou groter gaan dan 40mm. Ik had met 3500liter twee keer 50mm. Dat was wel meer dan voldoende maar denk dat jou idee te klein is.

De terugvoer kan kleiner dan afvoer.
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