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Stabiliteit datnoids

Alles over overige (roof)vissen; datnioides, channas, bichirs, arapaima's, gars, etc.
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Stabiliteit datnoids

Berichtdoor Rivfader » za 17 maart 2012, 16:07

Omdat veel mensen zich altijd afvragen hoe het komt dat in de ene bak een datnoid stabiel is en in de andere bak niet ben ik bezig geweest om te kijken waar het aan kan liggen.

Ik merk dat mijn dieren de laatste tijd stabieler worden en wel na een aantal flinke veranderingen.



Ik ben een aantal liters per week meer gaan verversen. ik zit nu ongeveer op een liter of 75 per dag
Het zoutgehalte heb ik wat opgeschroefd (dit was voornamelijk tegen wat plekjes die de gourami's hebben maar is nog steeds op ongeveer 2,5gram per liter)
Filtervolume vergroot (30 liter druppelfilter met kns en bioballen 50/50, 40liter zwaar belucht kns, 100 liter filter grid gemengd met ongeveer een liter of 10 siporax)
Bacto-x toegevoegd.

Ik merk dat niet alleen mijn datnioides het hier beter op doen maar ook de andere vissen zijn levendiger en mooier gekleurd.

Zijn er mensen die hier ook verschillende waarnemingen in hebben gedaan? Mijn specifieke aandacht gaat uit naar Bacto-X en het zout. Dit omdat de bak al super stabiel was en het filtermateriaal alleen aangevuld is met kns. Ook heb ik normaal een veel minder hoog zoutgehalte (plusminus 1 gram per liter)
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Re: Stabiliteit danoids

Berichtdoor stanley » za 17 maart 2012, 16:50

Zou het eens moeten proberen met alleen bacto X in plaats van combi met zout. Kan je kijken waar het aan ligt. Ik heb wel als er meer concurrentie(gezonde) in de bak zit(andere grote vis) dat hij op kleur is. Nu hij weer alleen zit hangt het denk ik van zijn bui af.
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Re: Stabiliteit danoids

Berichtdoor Rivfader » za 17 maart 2012, 16:57

Ook dat maakt inderdaad veel uit, ze moeten niet in een te lege bak zitten en interactie is wel belangrijk tussen de dieren.

Als de zoutkuur over is gaan we het zien, als de stabiliteit de komende weken terugloopt (zout ververst er automatisch uit) dan ligt het aan het zout anders aan de bacto-x
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Re: Stabiliteit danoids

Berichtdoor Erik » za 17 maart 2012, 17:42

Ik heb 4 tijgers van 32/37cm zitten waarvan één altijd stabiel is. Een ander is ook zwemerig (de grootste) en de andere twee zijn veel schuwer. Ik ververs twee keer 40% water per week en voeg iedere week zo'n 200gram zout toe. Mijn filter is iets meer dan 40% van het aquarium volume en gevuld met 40liter KNS (bewegend), 50liter siporax (15mm onbelucht) en 80liter AlphaGrog (belucht).

Bij Steven waren de drie die nu onstabiel zijn stabiel. Naar mijn mening komt dat door de SR die hij er bij had zwemmen. Maar ik zie ook groot verschil in de verandering van één keer naar twee keer per week 40% water verversen.

Ik heb het materiaal klaar om een trickle filter te maken. Echter weet ik niet of dat dat heel veel herrie maakt? Mijn aquarium staat namelijk op mijn slaapkamer.

Naar het voeren toe ('s avonds) worden de Tijgers ook actiever. 's Ochtends het minst dus...

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Re: Stabiliteit danoids

Berichtdoor Rivfader » za 17 maart 2012, 18:03

trickle filter moet je gewoon maken erik, dat maakt niet zoveel gleuid, ja in het begin... bewegend kns is veel luidruchtiger :P

hoeveel gram per liter heb jij je bak nu op staan erik?
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Re: Stabiliteit danoids

Berichtdoor Lode » za 17 maart 2012, 19:43

Denk dat het aan je waterverversingen ligt. Lastige is dat je veel tegelijk hebt veranderd waardoor een conclusie moeilijk wordt. Bacto X zal het niet aan liggen tenzij je filter niet goed draaide.

Waterwaardes (nitraat), stress en leeftijd hebben invloed op de stabiliteit heb ik gemerkt. Zout is een interessante. Temperatuur zou je ook nog mee kunnen experimenteren :)
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Re: Stabiliteit danoids

Berichtdoor Erik » za 17 maart 2012, 20:11

's Nachts beweegt m'n KNS niet. Maar ik ga het van de zomer eens experimenteren met een trickle.

Ja hoeveel zout. Ik doe iedere week zo'n 200 gram op 1000liter water. En ik ververs twee keer 40%. Dus ik moeilijk te zeggen. Het zou dan natuurlijk 0,2 gram per liter zijn voor de verversingen. Dan heb je 0,12 na de eerste verversing en 0,072 na de tweede. Maar voeg je weer zout toe heb je 0,272. Dus ik denk dat er wel een stijgende lijn in zit. Als hij iedere keer met 0,072 per week stijgt heb je natuurlijk na 10 weken 0,92 per liter en na een half jaar 2,072gram per liter. Huhhmmnnzz, zou ik er een keer mee moeten stoppen dan?

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Re: Stabiliteit datnoids

Berichtdoor domingo » za 14 apr 2012, 19:10

ik heb net bacto x in m,n bak gedaan
verder niets anders veranderd om goed tezien of ik iets zie veranderen
ben benieuwd wat de vissen er van vinden
zit er nu 1 uur in en nog geen verandering (logies :) )
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